About this place
Shiefer is an undeveloped site on the Salmon River, with the South Fork canyon country all around it. It stands at 3050 feet.
Trails run along the river into the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. A shorter one climbs to the Pilot Peak lookout.
Take your trash home.
It takes several hours to drive here from McCall, and nobody services it regularly.
The facts
- Cost
- Free to camp
- Roads around it
- Not maintained for ordinary cars
- Drinking water
- No, bring your own
- Toilet
- Yes
- Type
- Specific campsite
- Managed by
- Payette National Forest
The roads around this place are not maintained for a regular car. That comes from the US Forest Service, who grade every road by the kind of vehicle it is looked after for. Those records cover the roads nearby. They do not cover the last stretch in to the campsite, and nobody has checked that part. Treat this as a warning. We are not promising what you will find when you get there. If you have driven it, tell us what it was like and we will say so here.
Getting there
From McCall, head north on the Warren Wagon Road, Forest Road #21. Then turn east onto Forest Road #340, through Secesh and on through Warren. Allow two to three hours.
Coordinates 45.174568, -115.579507
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What is near here
A few more of our own spots are within reach of this one, along with some better-known places.
- Marshall Mountain Wilderness Study Area Directions
- Box Creek Wilderness Study Area Directions
- Frank Church–River of No Return Wilderness Directions
Every distance on this page is the driving distance. A short distance can still take a long time. The road may be closed for the season, covered in snow, or washed out. Many of these roads are dirt. Plan your route before you leave home. Out here there is often no phone signal to look it up on the way.
Nearest town and supplies
- Warren, ID Directions
- McCall, ID Directions
McCall is big enough that you’d normally expect fuel and somewhere to buy food. Nobody from here has been to check, so don’t count on it if you’re running low.
Why “at least”: this route is hard to measure. We worked the drive out twice, with two separate mapping tools, and they gave different answers. That usually means there is no road close to the campsite, so the drive doubles back a long way. The figure above is the longer of the two. The real drive could be further still, so check the route before you set off.
Why the drive to town is usually twice what the map says — what we found measuring every campsite in this guide.
When it’s time to move on
On most public land you can camp for 14 days before you have to move on. Check this site’s own limit before you plan a long stay. This is Forest Service land, and each forest sets its own rule for how far you have to go, so check before you travel.
The nearest other free campsite in this guide is Goose Lake Camping Area, Idaho — 29 miles in a straight line, but at least a 79 mile drive. Twelve more sit closer than 25 miles, if the rule here allows them.
Why “at least”: there is no road right at this campsite, so the drive is hard to measure and the real one could be further. Check the route before you set off.
This guide covers five states and does not list every free campsite, so there may be something closer that we do not hold. Check this site’s own rule before you rely on it.
Have you been here?
Fees and access change, and the records do not always keep up. If you have been, tell us what you found.
Thank you, that is recorded. It helps the next person.
Add road notes for this site
The thing we cannot get from any government record is what the drive in is actually like. If you have done it, this is the most useful thing you can leave behind. We read everything before it appears, and we print a first name with it if you give one.
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Where this information comes from
The description on this page is ours. The facts in it, and the fee and facility details below it, come from the Forest Service’s own records, read in August 2026.